iWoofer and Vega Conversation

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Only present in the earlier (pre-October 2026) archive. Kans' screenshot of Vega's protest is on Dan's Conversations with Kans.

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iWoofer Yesterday at 6:44 PM I talked to my pastor concerning the situation, he was disgusted with what happened and thinks I should move forward with what I proposed (monitoring the metanoian instances) If things don't seem to be healthy then I will continue to warn against attending the metanoian services Vega YHWH Yesterday at 6:56 PM What situation? iWoofer Yesterday at 6:58 PM The higher level situation, the reason it's still relevant is because the victims are now speaking out about it, not to mention the mountains of false teachings from a false teacher within the midst of the metanoian community Vega YHWH Yesterday at 6:59 PM What higher level situation? As a whole? iWoofer As a whole, specifically concerning the false teacher's role in it Who's the false teacher? Stickmandan Vega YHWH Yesterday at 7:00 PM What teachings are you referring though? Dan hasn't really host in a while He's only been doing Wednesdays now It's been me and Twizil for months iWoofer Yesterday at 7:02 PM Teaching of tongues, holding to unbiblical teachings such as hyper once saved always saved (the idea someone can be saved and fall out of the faith and still be saved cause they had faith once) Heretical doctrines like these Daniel should be removed completely from the community, the Bible says to purge unbelievers, they act as yeast and Daniel definitely is a yeast, his ideas spread like crazy, he has massive amounts of influence You're Viewing Older Messa*s mp To

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iWoofer Yesterday at 7:04 PM I prefer not to VC, cause it's not easy to document what is being said from either party Vega YHWH I think we should talk We can definitely talk text doesn't capture everything get on and talk to me you got a problem, talk to me you can voice any concerns with me iWoofer Yesterday at 7:05 PM I would rather not, especially with your track record with me and yelling at me Vega YHWH I promise I yell I prefer to chat we can settle this in a decent maner iWoofer Yesterday at 7:07 PM I think you think I came out publicly with my opinions on him, I didn't Vega YHWH Yesterday at 7:08 PM what are you talking about? Yesterday at 7:09 PM The claims that Daniel isn't a brother aren't a public opinion I voice who said I think you said that? look this is why I want to chat, I dont get what you mean here. I never said anyting about you saying stuff about Dan I'm just asking what situation you are refering and what instances Dan is bring you here today so let's just chat, I'm not gonna blow on ya You're Viewing Older Messa*s just tell me what concerns you have mp To

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iWoofer Yesterday at 7:11 PM And I absolutely do not trust that, respect my boundaries I have in place Vega YHWH Yesterday at 7:12 PM then how am I suppose to trust you're coming here with good intentions or because you just have a thing against Dan? cause you also shattered our trust so either you want to settle this in a manner that is going to help both of us or futher divide us it's your choice I'm giving a peace offering iWoofer Yesterday at 7:13 PM I'll be more clear Because Daniel believes in many heretical things I do not think he should not even be within the community because of his massive following, which leads baby Christians into heresy He should be removed from the community He is the yeast and a false teacher The Christian community is the dough Christ brought a sword, and my motivation is to protect baby Christians the way I should have been protected when I was young in the faith, from communities like matanoia, and people like Daniel Your community utterly failed, and refuses to actually accept correction Vega YHWH Yesterday at 7:19 PM clearity isn't going to cut it. Your intentions is what I'm questioning. You havn't been to a single event where Twizil or I have hosted. Metanoina is not run by one person; we're a team. And within the team, we have different beliefs. V•Eve talked to Dan about his views on Tongues and even though he believes, we talked him out of teaching. So there hasn't been a single event that Twizil or I have hosted on the teaching. Next, you understand this isn't a church right? We are an organized group that help encourages reptance and a relationship with God. We organize Bible readings and Bible Studies. We havn't done a single sermon, preach, or even sermonette since the incident. So from what I'm observing here, is that you a personal thing with Dan and none of his influences of his teachings, are being taught or organized in our groups iWoofer Yesterday at 7:20 PM Rid yourselves of wolves You're Viewing Older Messa*s mp To

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yesteraay at What user does he use on VRChat? Look Whatever Dan does outside of our events, you are welcome to approach him or ask if you need help. But coming to me, because you have private texts between Dan and whoever, is an individual issue. I don't think it's fair, that you trash us, the people who take time out of lives to bring God's word into people's lives I can't control what Dan believes. I can only control what our group teaches Please think about the people who have nothing to do with Dan. He is, his own man and like I said. I've been the only guy pretty much running Metanoia. Dan only shows up to encourage others to engage with us So I ask, sincerely, please, keep the issues of Metanoia, and Dan separate. If Dan is doing something in Metanoia, you can come to me. iWoofer Yesterday at 7:32 PM Does daniel host anything within metanoia Vega YHWH Yesterday at 7:33 PM Like I said he's only recently been hosting Wednesdays of the classic SPAR meetups. I think he has only twice up to this point. Yesterday at 7:34 PM ARe you guys still calling it spar? Yesterday at 7:35 PM no but you get what I mean by classic Spar session iWoofer You're Viewing Older Messa*s mp To

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Vega YHWH Yesterday at 7:35 PM the opening up nights iWoofer Oh 0k That confuses people into thinking its actually spar Yesterday at 7:37 PM We typically say Spar night. And Spar is an acronym fow what is encouraged. People within our groups know this isn't Spar. Some weren't even there so. If they were people who got confused with the session and the group, I can make it clear on the next session Yesterday at 7:38 PM Read the dm's between me and daniel i just sent you, calling it spar is very immoral considering what happened Zokusha was hurt immensely and depressed Vega YHWH Yesterday at 7:40 PM I didn't know that about Zokusha. I can address this in our next meeting. It's valid to keep the group and the session separate. iWoofer Yesterday at 7:41 PM Its disrespectful, daniel not telling you guys otherwise the concerns i had should be some fruits you guys can gaze upon and take note on the kind of person daniel is statement from kans Ill tell you what, I believe a good congregation is built upon a biblical foundation. The thing with many other congregations is that they will put their level of affirmation similar to non-believers or other communities, like the whole love is love thing (hyper affirmation) in the LGBTQ community. Despite yes we say come as you are which is in fact biblical, it doesn't mean that person who comes as they are gets to spread their beliefs that is unbiblical and can lead people astray from the truth. They come as they are so they can have a transformation. If this isn't any congregatiods idea as come as you are, then they lead a flock of wolves ready to devour their cattle. would you rather have your cattle have fellowship? or a protected biblical foundation leading to eternal life? Lastly, how do you know if your truly having fellowship under a weak foundation? -Kans

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Vega -Kans Vega YHWH Yesterday at 7:53 PM Well, since it's only been two instances, and we havn't done them in a while, I can agree it's more respectful towards the previous leaders so make it clear that Wednesday sessions will no longer be called SPAR. As as for the quote, first of all, Kans has NEVER come to our groups. Not a single time. So if he has something he wants to say about what Metanoia is currently doing about what we teach, even though we don't preach sermons, but in any circumstance where something was said within our sessions, he is more than welcome to bring it up. Our group has been focused on encouraging others to read their Bibles, reflect on studies, and building relationships. Again, if this is about Dan, on his own time, in his private groups or chats, if you guys have an issue with it, you are welcome to follow the Matthew protocol. If he's sinning, you're welcome to inform any of us to try to rectify the situation. Like, I don't know how you guys view our community. We're not a church; we're technically a ministry providing a service to any Christian to receive God's word through studies and readings. We want to build a community to help with the needs of the few that many overlook. Many of these people are suffering from anxiety, loneliness, financial burdens and health issues. I hear their pain everyday. So I'm not going anywhere Vega YHWH Yesterday at 8:21 PM The group does care about having our discernment with God's word. And with every instance I have hosted, if I ever said anything or spread anything that led others astray, then let the Lord rebuke me. But when it seems fine, it isn't easy for us. Not to mention, since the incident, many brothers are divided instead of recognizing why we are here in the first place, and that is to reach out to the lost. Even with our ministry service, it is the evangelism that we are trying to encourage. And that's why we provide what we provide. I can't control what every person believes but if I can show them the word of God, I can trust in the Holy Spirit. That's always been my goal but the furry community filled with addicts, and so they need a constant brother to be there while trying to reconcile their faith through encouragement and service. I have seen the Holy Spirit work in those who went to our groups to make their own groups doing the same thing. Reading God's word and sharing his wisdom. Yes, there will be disagreement, yes we need God's grace to help us, but we also need God's correction so I'm not going to turn down when something needs addressing, for we do not want to let a foothold of the deviL And since I've been running Metanoia, I have seen fruit in others and will continue to do what God has put me here to do. iWoofer Yesterday at 8:47 PM Kans has been to the events, he def knew how it was back then, and i know how it is now. everytime i join usually theirs a group with people cussing like sailors, ive had multiple accounts from people witnessing the sloppiness and lack of moderation within the group actually, we had a member from Metanoia cuss at me personally, and he joined LF and joined me and a brother in a vc just to yell the N word I reported him and he was promptly removed Vega YHWH Yesterday at 8:57 PM When we have larger group gathers like testimony night, we run a limited people. And I haves addressed people personally. But if you witnessed instances like that, why didn't you report to us? I've been to almost every event and the only people who come to me are people who are genuinely interested in helping us. But when I see you around, you avoid me like a Ghost. Which is your decision but when we run our events, we are always open in hearing reports neither you nor Kans has ever came to me for. Which is weird because I am a moderator in the group.

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Vega YHWH Yesterday at 9:09 PM Anyways, not sure where this is going to go but from what I'm hearing from all this is that you guys have a personal issue with Dan and whatever concerns you have Metanoia, from what I have witnessed and heard from you, is that you don't seem to interested in the interest of what w€re trying to build here. You can raise instances that you never came to me for but I welcome you to have a change of heart over your attitude towards us. We're not perfect and as long I'm around and people come to me with the intention of making Metanoia a better place, then I continue to serve that. YHWH Anyways, not sure where this is going to go but from what I'm hearingfrom all this is that you guys have a personal issue with Dan and whatever concerns you have Met„_ iWoofer Yesterday at 9:31 PM I wonder why i wouldn't bring any of this to you, esp after you invalidate our concerns by calling it a personal issue with daniel, despite it being an issue were called to call out in scripture This conversation shown me nothing but that you didn't change a single bit, and you still are still willing to invalidate these incredibly serious issues by calling it personal issues, 1m going to conduct these surveys still. I hope you and thwizil repent of this notion with mr daniel still being suitable for ministerial work I don't want anymore contact with you though, neither do i want to hear your objections if this is all i am going to receive from you Vega YHWH Yesterday at 9:34 PM Invalid? You just admitted you didn't care to come to me about any of it. Where's your concern to improve Metanoia? (e±ited) It's your apathy towards us is what's evident You don't care Woofer I even fought for the things when you guys came to me I listened to every word you guys gave I was the one who blocked Neil and reached out to him to repent