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Belcanto and Dan DMs (Aug 3, 2025)

belcanto and dans dms 832025.txt
Context just been removed and banned from fca and i wanted to have a convo with stickmandan as a last ditch effort to see if daniel would change his heart about how he operates ministry, belcanto and dan dms 832025

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Babybel Original Cheese8/3/25, 2:09 AM
Pick up.
Or are you too afraid to talk like a man?
StickManDanYHWH8/3/25, 2:15 AM
Give me a moment then.
I did this while laying down to sleep.
I won't talk with my family around.
Babybel Original Cheese8/3/25, 2:16 AM
No, I'm not talking anymore. You're going to have to wait.
StickManDanYHWH8/3/25, 2:16 AM
Alright.
Babybel Original Cheese8/3/25, 2:16 AM
You shouldn't be server owner.
Letting a pedophile into the server knowingly.
Holy shit.
I should've demanded you to step down then.
What is wrong with you?????
StickManDanYHWH8/3/25, 2:19 AM
Honestly, nothing... but you won't understand anything and that's fine with me at this point... you don't understand compassion or hope for change for people. The pedo thing was a mistake on my end because I thought him better and I was wrong. I still will hold to that change to not allow it in the server if I know about it.
Babybel Original Cheese8/3/25, 2:20 AM
COMPASSION?????
StickManDanYHWH8/3/25, 2:20 AM
Also known as mercy
Babybel Original Cheese8/3/25, 2:20 AM
You don't have a backbone.
StickManDanYHWH8/3/25, 2:21 AM
I just stood up to you didn't I? It's such a strange thing when people say that to me, after I actually do something.
Babybel Original Cheese8/3/25, 2:21 AM
Forget this, we will talk another time, I'm far too angry with you.
StickManDanI just stood up to you didn't I? It's such a strange thing when people say ...
Babybel Original Cheese8/3/25, 2:21 AM
You stood up for yourself, not for biblical truth.
StickManDanYHWH8/3/25, 2:21 AM
When did I say something wasn't a sin?
Babybel Original Cheese8/3/25, 2:22 AM
You stand for allowing that in Christian servers with minors as young as 13.
Babybel Original CheeseYou stand for allowing that in Christian servers with minors as young as 13.
StickManDanYHWH8/3/25, 2:23 AM
I do not allow known pedophiles into the server, anymore. I do allow people confused about the lgbtq+ stuff in, however.
Babybel Original Cheese8/3/25, 2:24 AM
YOU LET HIGHER LEVEL IN KNOWING HE HAD A HISTORY OF ERP WITH MINORS!!
Babybel Original CheeseYOU LET HIGHER LEVEL IN KNOWING HE HAD A HISTORY OF ERP ...
StickManDanYHWH8/3/25, 2:24 AM
I already repented of that mistake.
Babybel Original Cheese8/3/25, 2:24 AM
That's a mistake that should've led to you stepping down.
But I was a coward and didn't push.
StickManDanYHWH8/3/25, 2:25 AM
It fine Bel. Give it time. You will see... perhaps through the grapevine. No idea.
Babybel Original Cheese8/3/25, 2:25 AM
Yeah, can't wait to hear about kids getting groomed in FCA.
StickManDanYHWH8/3/25, 2:26 AM
You won't.
Get some sleep. You don't have this burden anymore.
Babybel Original Cheese8/3/25, 2:26 AM
I was forcibly removed. I do have this burden.
You will NEVER understand.
You have no idea what it's like to be molested, and you don't know what it's like to be groomed.
StickManDanYHWH8/3/25, 2:31 AM
I dont... you are right... and I am sorry that had happened to you and we will fight to ensure these things don't happen and to help the kids who struggle with gender and sexuality to know the truth of God's love for them and how He designed our bodies.
Without being explicit, obviously.
Babybel Original Cheese8/3/25, 2:33 AM
You banned me.
You banned the ONE person who understands.
StickManDanYHWH8/3/25, 2:34 AM
Would you be better off in the server without moderation or will you sow division?
Babybel Original Cheese8/3/25, 2:35 AM
I don't want to be anywhere near that server.
You've ruined it.
StickManDanYHWH8/3/25, 2:35 AM
Then there you go... God bless you Belcanto. ❤️ Love you my brother. 🫂
Babybel Original Cheese8/3/25, 2:35 AM
I'm not your brother. (edited)
StickManDanYHWH8/3/25, 2:36 AM
Under Christ, we are, whether we like it or not.
Babybel Original Cheese8/3/25, 2:36 AM
I don't care, I don't see you as my brother.
You make mistake after mistake when it comes to people who have sexual sin.
Skittles, Vex, Higherlevel.
Anyone else I don't know about?
StickManDanYHWH8/3/25, 2:38 AM
You don't know the whole stories of these things... ultimate God knows and that's where my peace lies at this point...
Babybel Original Cheese8/3/25, 2:38 AM
I know that they lied to you.
I know skittles has been better the past six months, but vex and higherlevel have gone on to offend.
StickManDanYHWH8/3/25, 2:39 AM
Referring to Medina and Vex?
Babybel Original Cheese8/3/25, 2:40 AM
Yes.
StickManDanYHWH8/3/25, 2:40 AM
It doesn't matter... their sins are their sins... God is in control. If they didn't change further, that's between them and God at this point.
Babybel Original Cheese
Idk if vex and redacted do anything currently, I highly doubt they do.
But it happened.
Despite what you said.
Your word simply isn't trustworthy.
And I'm the villain for pointing that out???
StickManDanYHWH8/3/25, 2:42 AM
Yes... I understnad... I am learning better how to help people isolate their sins to win against addiction. Either way, that process with pedophiles will not happen in the server, anymore.
Babybel Original Cheese8/3/25, 2:42 AM
It happened ONCE.
That's enough.
Babybel Original CheeseYour word simply isn't trustworthy.
StickManDanYHWH8/3/25, 2:42 AM
Because others lie, I am untrustworthy? (edited)
Babybel Original Cheese8/3/25, 2:42AM
You told everyone they were safe and allowed them into the server
Talking specifically about higher level.
Well actually, you didn't tell us jack.
StickManDanYHWH8/3/25, 2:43 AM
I thought they were. I was wrong. I already repented of it.
Babybel Original Cheese8/3/25, 2:43 AM
There were zero consequences.
For you, that is.
I should've pushed you to step down.
But again, I was a coward.
StickManDanYHWH8/3/25, 2:44 AM
Plenty of me getting pain and suffering... I assure you the higher level thing continues to follow me. I have my consequences.
Babybel Original Cheese8/3/25, 2:44 AM
If you want to repent, then resign.
Babybel Original CheeseIf you want to repent, then resign.
StickManDanYHWH8/3/25, 2:45 AM
I will in time.
Babybel Original Cheese8/3/25, 2:45 AM
Something like that would've resulted in a youth pastor getting fired and blacklisted.
But again, I'm the bad guy for pointing that out.
Babybel Original CheeseSomething like that would've resulted in a youth pastor getting fired an...
StickManDanYHWH8/3/25, 2:45 AM
I wouldn't have let it happen irl.
Babybel Original Cheese8/3/25, 2:45 AM
Oh yeah, because letting it happen online is so much better. You shouldn't have let it happen at all.
StickManDanYHWH8/3/25, 2:45 AM
Irl, the man would have been jailed. But this is virtual.
Babybel Original Cheese8/3/25, 2:46 AM
The fact it HAPPENED is the problem.
And I'm treated like I'm insane for still being upset about it!
Heaven forbid the csa survivor be upset that a child was groomed online in a server he co-owns!
StickManDanYHWH8/3/25, 2:49 AM
All things come to an end eventually.
Babybel Original Cheese8/3/25, 2:49 AM
Yeah, well some things end because the people who run them are morons.
StickManDanYHWH8/3/25, 2:50 AM
I hope the very best for you Belcanto. This is a hard place to minister to. ❤️🫂
Babybel Original Cheese8/3/25, 2:50 AM
You don't have to make those mistakes.
StickManDanYHWH8/3/25, 2:50 AM
I didnt... and I regret it.
StickManDanI hope the very best for you Belcanto. This is a hard place to minister to....
Babybel Original Cheese8/3/25, 2:50 AM
Whatever dude, you've made too many mistakes for me to ever trust you as a server leader again.
StickManDanYHWH8/3/25, 2:50 AM
Not trying to help them, but trusting them after all that had happened.
Babybel Original CheeseWhatever dude, you've made too many mistakes for me to ever trust you a...
StickManDanYHWH8/3/25, 2:51 AM
That's why I couldn't keep you... you have no grace to look past it and see I was willing to change afterwards.
Babybel Original Cheese8/3/25, 2:51 AM
Oh my gosh, you still don't get it.
StickManDanYHWH8/3/25, 2:51 AM
Neither do you. 🫂
Babybel Original Cheese8/3/25, 2:51 AM
A mistake of that magnitude should've led to you stepping down immediately.
But you DIDNT.
If anything I was far too graceful by not pushing for you to step down.
Babybel Original CheeseIf anything I was far too graceful by not pushing for you to step down.
StickManDanYHWH8/3/25, 2:53 AM
Just like Skittles, who would have taken it at the time? Timing is much better now. Go get some sleep. ❤️🫂
Babybel Original Cheese8/3/25, 2:54AM
Skittles wouldn't have been the server owner.
You'll reap what you sow.
Babybel Original CheeseYou'll reap what you sow.
StickManDanYHWH8/3/25, 2:55 AM
I sow as much good and love and truth and clarity and wisdom as I can everyday. I am counting on it.
Babybel Original Cheese8/3/25, 2:56 AM
No you don't.
Babybel Original Cheese8/3/25, 6:26 PM
Praying that you are saved from you're dangerously misguided ways.
Babybel Original CheesePraying that you are saved from you're dangerously misguided ways.
StickManDan8/3/25, 7:39 PM
Thank you. ❤️
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