FCA Group Chat with Whiplash and Dan (Aug 2025)¶
context for BWD group convo .txt
Right after making the announcement in the FCA mod chat to pause all invites for accounts that had lgbtq content (pronouns, flags, etc) in their bios. Whiplash pulled me into a group chat with him and Dan, and accused me of abusing my power, when I was in fact co-owner, and equal to Dan.
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StickManDan ÖYHWH 1:06 AM
Belcanto, are you up?
Belcanto
1:08 AM
Not for long.
StickManDan ÖYHWH 1:09 AM
Why didn't you work with Whiplash before that
announcement? Why the rush on it?
1:11 AM
Because as co-owner I supersede whiplash,
and frankly I do not think he would be willing
to cooperate on this issue.
Stickman Dan
1:12 AM
This is an abuse of your powers and
leadership. I was giving you a chance to work
well with Whiplash.
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Belcanto
1:13 AM
I don't see how this is an abuse, I didn't
publicly oppose whiplash or your decision, I
privately in mod chat decided to stop
verifications until we had a chance to discuss
this further.
If you "leaving" was a test to see whether
whiplash and I can work together, then that
was manipulative of you.
Stickman Dan
1:13 AM
You even suggest that you have done this on
your own accord as well.
Belcanto
1:14 AM
What do you mean, Daniel?
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Belcanto
1:15 AM
Did you actually leave? Or did you just say that
to silently observe whether or not we can work
together?
Stickman Dan
1:16 AM
I am on my camping trip. I was working on a
message that aches my heart and soul in the
quiet times... and would look at discord in
relative peace.
Belcanto
Okay then.
Either way, a real abuse of power would be
ordering the policy be undone while you were
gone.
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Belcanto
1:28 AM
Frankly, I don't care if you view my position as
"hateful".
You have no idea what I've been through and
what I've seen. If you'd gone through half of
what I have, you'd understand.
I am here to make sure the server is safe, and
if it isn't, then I'm doing a bad job.
Frankly, I don't care if you view my
@Belcanto
position as "hateful". You have no idea what I've be...
StickManDan
ÖYHWH 1:29 AM
You had a leader in the past that erped so I get
what you went through. This is not that.
Belcanto
1:30 AM
That's not what I'm talking about.
StickManDan ÖYHWH 1:31 AM
The leader set the tone for the server, Bel. I
don't do that.
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StickManDan
ÖYHWH 1:06 AM
Belcanto, are you up?
Belcanto
1:08 AM
Not for long.
ÖYHWH 1:09 AM
Why didn't you work with Whiplash before that
announcement? Why the rush on it?
1:11 AM
Because as co-owner I supersede whiplash,
and frankly I do not think he would be willing
to cooperate on this issue.
StickManDan
ÖYHWH
1:12 AM
This is an abuse of your powers and
leadership. I was giving you a chance to work
well with Whiplash.
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Belcanto
1:13 AM
I don't see how this is an abuse, I didn't
publicly oppose whiplash or your decision, I
privately in mod chat decided to stop
verifications until we had a chance to discuss
this further.
If you "leaving" was a test to see whether
whiplash and I can work together, then that
was manipulative of you.
StickManDan
ÖYHWH
1:13 AM
You even suggest that you have done this on
your own accord as well.
Belcanto
1:14 AM
What do you mean, Daniel?
If you "leaving" was a test to see
@Belcanto
whether whiplash and I can work together, then tha...
Stickman Dan
If giving you guys a chance to work together as
a test is manipulative that is a ridiculous
assertion. (edited)
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Belcanto
1:15 AM
Did you actually leave? Or did you just say that
to silently observe whether or not we can work
together?
Stickman Dan
1:16 AM
I am on my camping trip. I was working on a
message that aches my heart and soul in the
quiet times... and would look at discord in
relative peace.
Belcanto
Okay then.
Either way, a real abuse of power would be
ordering the policy be undone while you were
gone.
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Belcanto
1:28 AM
Frankly, I don't care if you view my position as
"hateful".
You have no idea what I've been through and
what I've seen. If you'd gone through half of
what I have, you'd understand.
I am here to make sure the server is safe, and
if it isn't, then I'm doing a bad job.
Frankly, I don't care if you view my
@Belcanto
position as "hateful". You have no idea what I've be...
StickManDan
ÖYHWH 1:29 AM
You had a leader in the past that erped so I get
what you went through. This is not that.
Belcanto
1:30 AM
That's not what I'm talking about.
StickManDan ÖYHWH 1:31 AM
The leader set the tone for the server, Bel. I
don't do that.
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Belcanto
1:32AM
Again, you don't understand.
None of this is about skittles.
StickManDan ÖYHWH 1:32AM
Help me understand then.
I can't.
All I can say is that this is deeply personal.
StickManDan
ÖYHWH 1:35 AM
Alright... well do not project your struggles
onto this server like this...
Belcanto
1:35 AM
Excuse me?
This isn't projection.
I have seen what happens, I know how
manipulative people can be.
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StickManDan ÖYHWH 1:37 AM
Do you think what happened to you will likely
happen to others if we don't stop this change?
Belcanto
1:37 AM
I will not just sit back and watch as you
casually allow your server policies to put more
kids at risk.
@StickManDan
ÖYHWH Do you think what
happened to you will likely happen to others if we .
Belcanto
1:37 AM
You don't know what happened to me.
@Belcanto You don't know what happened to
StickManDan ÖYHWH 1:37 AM
I don't. I don't need to know. Do you think it?
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Belcanto
1:38 AM
Whether what happened to me could happen
to others isn't the point, the point is that
you're making it easier for these people to
groom kids online, and you don't even realize.
Or maybe you're just not willing to realize.
@Belcanto Whether what happened to me could
happen to others isn't the point, the point is that .
StickManDan ÖYHWH 1:39 AM
The active groomers will lie to get in here.
Belcanto
1:39 AM
Active groomers will have pro Igbt stuff in
their accounts too.
You're thinking of ONE kind of groomer.
StickManDan
ÖYHWH 1:40 AM
That's the groomer you are most worried
about
Give me another that you are also worried
about?
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Belcanto
1:41 AM
Lgbt grooming bruh, I've explained this a
billion times at this point
@Belcanto
Lgbt grooming bruh, I've explained
this a billion times at this point
StickManDan ÖYHWH 1:42 AM
And we speak against in the server in a loving
manner and explain goodness of these topics.
Belcanto
1:43 AM
That doesn't stop those kinds of people either,
what does is actively enforcing policy that
dissuades people from having that stuff in
their bio.
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Whiplash
1:44 AM
Let me try to understand. Belcanto, you say
you had something deeply personal happen to
you in your past that is affecting why you are
tying to make this change. You want to prevent
this thing from happening to others in our
server. What I have stated over and over is
these groomers are everywhere and this
change won't effect if they are in our server or
not. Even if it did, these groomers are
everywhere online and have access to many
many servers that are 13+. You want to raise
our server to 16+ to prevent younger minors
from being affected in our server.
When putting this all together, it really just
seems like you don't want it to happen in the
server that you are the co-owner of. You aren't
prioritizing the general younger population for
who they are and what they need, you're
prioritizing the part that links them to you. It's
as if you would rather them get groomed
somewhere else than have a chance and fail at
preventing it in the server you are co-owre
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Belcanto
1:44 AM
Oh my gosh.
I hope you're not a psych major.
If another Christian server I was implemented
that exact same policy and the server was 13+
I'd have the exact same complaint.
It just so happens that the one I co-own is the
only christian server I'm in that has this policy.
(edited)
Whiplash
1:46 AM
But what about all the other furry 13+ servers
out there?
Belcanto
1m not really in any!
1m only in Christian furry servers that are 16+
or 18+
All you're doing is nitpicking.
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@Belcanto All you're doing is nitpicking.
StickManDan ÖYHWH 1:47 AM
As are you.
Belcanto
1:48 AM
Nope, I have raised VALID concerns, Daniel.
StickManDan ÖYHWH 1:48 AM
And so has he.
Not really.
@Belcanto
How gracious of you.
Belcanto
1:48 AM
The "concern" on his end is "evangelism".
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ÖYHWH How gracious of you.
@StickManDan
Belcanto
1:48 AM
Don't give me that.
Whiplash
When I mentioned this before, you told me
that's not an excuse to have it happen in our
server. Again, leaving the 13-16 year old kids to
be pushed out of the Christian furry servers
and into the non-Christian furry servers. How
do you think that's going to go for those kids
Belcanto? Would it really be better for them to
be pushed there?
@Belcanto The "concern" on his end is
"evangelism".
StickManDan ÖYHWH 1:49 AM
Which why is that not a valid concern. ?
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@Belcanto The "concern" on his end is
"evangelism".
StickManDan ÖYHWH 1:49 AM
Which why is that not a valid concern. ?
Belcanto
1:49 AM
There's a difference between letting Igbt kids
in and Igbt adults in. We can discuss that later,
but that's not what the policy is talking about.
@Belcanto There's a difference between letting
Igbt kids in and Igbt adults in. We can discuss that .
Whiplash
1:50AM
Belcanto, we cannot have a policy that allows
LGBTQ kids and not adults. Please answer this
questions. Would it be better to allow 13-16
year olds in our server with this policy or push
them into a secular 13+ furry server that is
bound to try to indoctrinate them? (edited)
Belcanto
1:51 AM
Oh really now?
We cant let Igbt kids in while excluding the
adults?
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@Belcanto
Oh really now?
StickManDan
ÖYHWH 1:52AM
Before we go any further, do you at least see
what Whiplash is getting at?
Belcanto
1:52AM
It's actually quite easy: you just have to change
the policy
@Belcanto
It's actually quite easy: you just have
to change the policy •
Whiplash
1:52AM
Please answer the question
@StickManDan
ÖYHWH Before we go any
further, do you at least see what Whiplash is gettin...
Belcanto
No. And I don't plan on discussing this further,
I'm tired and I teach Sunday school tomorrow.
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@Belcanto
It's actually quite easy: you just have
to change the policy •
Whiplash
1:52AM
Please answer the question
ÖYHWH Before we go any
@StickManDan
further, do you at least see what Whiplash is gettin...
Belcanto
1:52 AM
No. And I don't plan on discussing this further,
I'm tired and I teach Sunday school tomorrow.
Blocked message
1:53 AM
When you learn to read.
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My (Belcanto) experience with Dan.
FixupX 2/15/26, 7:34 PM
He has me blocked so I had to grab a
quote/response of what Whiplash said.
Belcanto •g 3/27/26, 6:47 PM
iWoofer
3/27/26, 7:20 PM
3:17
can we get a date range on these conversations?
Belcanto •g 3/27/26, 7:21 PM
August 2025.
Early August.
iWoofer
3/27/26, 7:34 PM
@Belcanto
Hey those screenshots
where do they originate from?
fca?
or FFC
August 2025.
ted
LoneMech383 • PRAY •g
3/27/26, 7:46 PM
What was Dans authority during this.
@iWoofer fca?
Belcanto •g 3/27/26.7:49 PM
Group chat I was dragged into by Whiplash and Dan.
@LoneMech383 PRAY What was Dans authority d..
Belcanto •g 3/27/26, 7:49 PM
He was the owner.
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My (Belcanto) experience with Dan.
iWoofer
3/27/26, 7:50 PM
When did he step down from being the owner?
Belcanto •g 3/27/26, 7:50 PM
Soon after.
Within a week.
ty
But he kept his mod access and continued to
influence policy through whiplash.
Dan specifically wanted whiplash to take over.
But he kept his mod access and continued...
LoneMech383 • PRAY •g
3/27/26, 7:57 PM
you said that you were Co-owner?
@LoneMech383 PRAY you said that you were Co-...
Belcanto •g 3/27/26, 7:59 PM
I was.
LoneMech383 •PRAY •g
3/27/26, 8:01 PM
Were they ever willing to compromise or find an
alternate solution or was it their way or the
highway?
Belcanto •g 3/27/26, 8:01 PM
No, I tried.
I tried to tell them maybe we could raise the age
requirement to 16.
That way the members would be, by and large, less
vulnerable.
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Belcanto •g 3/27/26, 8:01 PM
No, I tried.
I tried to tell them maybe we could raise the age
requirement to 16.
That way the members would be, by and large, less
vulnerable.
But they did not at all want to.
They actually wanted to make the policy change
without having talked to some moderators about it.
No, tried.
LoneMech383 •PRAY •g
3/27/26, 8:10 PM
I understand, im an admin from Loving Faith, and
my purpose here is mainly to protect Loving Faith.
From what iv seen i will be pushing for a ban for
Dan from LE I am also in full support of exposing
Dan for who he truly is.
March 28, 2026